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Status Future consideration
Created by Guest
Created on Apr 24, 2025

ORD SUDA - Single gradient property - False for stormwater and wastewater conduit

Hi,


We were wondering if it would be possible to change the single gradient property function for stormwater and wastewater conduit.

"Single Gradient - This is always set to true for storm and sanitary conduits. For other types of conduit, it is set in the Feature Definition. If true, the conduit has a single gradient from the start node to the stop node."

We would like to have an option to choose False for single gradient to be able to change the elevation of the vertical control nodes either in 3D or profile view which is currently impossible if we use "place conduit" for placement of wastewater and stormwater conduits. (I have attached a screenshot of the nodes to avoid confusion)

We would use the function for design of pressurized stormwater/wastewater pipes, for production of as-built material from low-quality surveys (line string broken down into pieces, gaps, etc.) and for design of gravitational systems in tight areas where vertical bend is necessary.

Civil Product Used OpenRoads Designer, OpenRail Designer
  • Guest
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    Apr 28, 2025

    Should you not change how "extract from graphic" works for these two systems then?

    The fact that its impossible to disable the single gradient property encourages the designers to find a workaround and drawing a 3D line with vertical bends and extracting it could be that workaround.

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    Jonathan Smith
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    Apr 28, 2025

    Thanks for the feedback.

    The reason for the single gradient property being locked to true for storm and waste water conduits is because it's a requirement for the hydraulic calculations. If you want to model a vertical change in gradient, then you need to place a node at that location. The workspaces that ship with the software include a Feature Definition called "Transition", which could be used for this purpose.